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SLAV 512, November 11, 2003

 

Mark speaks on zagovory

 

Give out list of legend readings

 

Then look back at tales

When dealing with verse, we have distinctions in content between the genres. We also have distinctions in form.

Review epic &endash; historical song &endash; ballad

Religious song

 

When we deal with tales, we do not have differences in form

Tales are all ONE genre

 

What we do have is differences in content

The list I gave out.

A simplified version of this is to make a 3-way distinction

Animal tales

Magic tales

Tales of everyday life

 

Ask them for examples

 

Most people that write about tales write about magic tales

(What are magic tales also called?)

 

Get tale list and ask them to retell some of the animal tales on the list

 

One way to look at these is that they are related to the concerns of the young child

A not-quite-Freudian look would say that there are many stories about food

What you can and cannot eat

To what extent the body can serve as food

What can you do with the body in general

What is alive and what is not and what is the difference

Even language and proper social behavior on a real basic, elementary level

 

Show this in tales

Watch in Nu pogodi cartoon

Terem-teremok is a traditional example, redone in cartoon version for Soviet point of view

 

Please note that, when dealing with Zipes type "subversion," this subversion is not necessarily intentional or even conscious

Individual reflects own issues because they are his or her issues

People writing cartoon scripts in Soviet era picture the world in Soviet terms

Everything tells them that that is THE way the world should be seen

 

Magic tales are stories of the quest type

Protagonist ventures out

Whether the out is seen in terms of the real, external world

Or in terms of exploring the internal world of the self (Jung)

These are the concerns of an older person

A pre-teen, perhaps younger

 

As quest and adventure stories, magic tales have an appeal to all ages

These are the stories that you see in movies, on TV

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are cartoon versions of magic tales

Same for the Lord of the Rings series

Same for Harry Potter

 

Tales of everyday life are amusement for older folks

How husband stops wife from gossiping

 

Look at erotic tales

Notice that some of the issues of animal tales are present there

 

So &endash; the nice 3-way distinction, like all distinctions, has its flaws

 

When it comes to legends and tales, the distinction is MUCH clearer

Legends purport to be fact, tales are once upon a time, three times nine kingdoms away, in a certain kingdom, in a certain land, once there was, etc.

They give me some of the typical Russian openings

 

Legends are true

Difference legend, fabulate, memorate

Russian: predanie

Legenda

Bylichka

Byval'shchina

 

But things are still not all that simple

Vampire &endash; which is a legend (under what circumstances, how told?)

But can have tale 2nd half tacked on to it and become a tale

 

Before we start these &endash; how to do folklore research

 

Witchcraft article (or Sten'ka Razin)

Take lots and lots of texts on a particular topic and start looking for things that repeat.

For example, with the witchcraft stories, I could have looked at what animals witches supposedly turn self into

From that &endash; patterns

Which animal under what circumstances

Is there a pattern to the animals themselves

Are they all domestic animals

Are they all animals of masculine/feminine grammatical gender

Who do witches interact with

At what time of day/night

 

The purpose of this type of work is to extract an element of Russian folk belief

Other belief systems are articulate

Religious belief is stated in religious tracts

Political belief is stated in laws

Neither is unproblematic

There are inconsistencies

Between one law and another

Between law and the reality that you have to deal with

And new laws need to be drafted

In the case of religion

Your priest or minister interprets for you in the sermon

Pope issues papal bulls, epistles

In the case of folklore, there is no official tract

To extract belief from its expression

The expression is almost by definition some sort of art form

The songs, stories, rituals, objects of material culture

 

So, you can look at clothing and see importance of motherhood

Importance of nursing and milk beliefs

The importance of the border &endash; protection of clothing edges

And you can find the same beliefs elsewhere

Border &endash; material culture and houses

Epic and dealing with foreign things

Stories of house and other spirits

 

Back to oral lore and possible topics, ways of handling them

Sten'ka Razin

How is he like other bandit heroes

How is he different

Issue of vermin

Where else does vermin appear

How is Sten'ka Razin treated in prose as opposed to verse

 

Stories about devils

Size

Love of music

How are devils tricked

How do they trick people

 

Stories about treasure, about return of the dead

Epic heroes whose stories are told in tale form

What is the pattern of differences

What does this tell us

 

From epic you can extract elements of belief about the relationship between the foreign and the domestic

Who is the enemy

What makes a hero

Who does the hero fight for

 

For folktales &endash; animal tales

Which animals

Which issues &endash; body? Food?

Wild versus domestic

What happens when a wild animal enters the domestic sphere, reverse?

Magic tales &endash; which animals are helpers

Who has external, transposed soul

Where is this soul

Philippa's dissertation about doll stories

Dundes' case book series


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