SLAV 512- September 11, 2003

 

Divide up the next set of readings

 

What happened two years ago and the desire for an artistic response

            Existing memorial

            Planned memorials

Other artistic responses to tragedy

            Vietnam War Memorial

            Oklahoma City bombing and the memorial to that

 

Other artistic responses:

            Vietnam War and films such as Deerhunter, Apocalypse Now

 

Discussions on NPR, PBS of artistic responses to tragedies, life-changing situations

 

Some situations get no memorial

            Tragedies caused by religious sects:

                        Waco

                        Heaven's Gate

                        Jonestown

            Natural disasters         

                        The various hurricanes, as in Camille in VA

 

What is the difference?

            Esoteric/exoteric

            Changes thinking, belief

 

What about successful wars, as in WWII?

            Perhaps memorials to individual battles where there is significant loss

George Bush Sr.'s Gulf War goes unheeded- except perhaps for sick soldiers

 

The silly response to tragedy- sick jokes

Why in the world would there be a silly response?

            Does it trivialize the tragedy?

            Or is something else going on?

 

If the negative event is too disturbing, then a more structuring devices such as the limerick response to John and Lorena Bobbitt

If it is too, too horrid, no response at all

            The woman who drowns her 2 sons

 

What at 9/11?

There are jokes

See the NewFolk website

 

 

Back to Russian material- and it is connected

            I believe epic is an artistic response to a BAD situation, a situation of loss in war which causes you to rethink your beliefs

 

So, what do we know about it so far

Epic is connected to war

            If it does not tell about a battle

            Or a conflict between 2 heroes, one Russian and one foreign

            Then it deals with warriors in general- bogatyri

 

The length of the narratives is relatively short, though they could once have been joined into longer stories

            Broken up episode from episode with time

The verse is stychic, as in composition is line-by-line

            Rather than stanzas

The line length is uneven, though there seem to be 3 major beats per line

 

These 3 formal features lead people to assume that the poetry, as it is recorded in the late 19th century, is a degeneration from a former poetry, one that was

            Longer

            Had more even and regular lines, though probably not rhyme

            Rhyme tends to be a feature of shorter poetic forms

            When you tell a long story, the poetry tends to by stychic

 

It was sung to the accompaniment of a musical instrument (at least it was)

Not in the Siberian recordings

According to Putilov and Jakobson, one distinction between epic and lament is that the former is sung by men to a musical accompaniment and the latter is sung by women a cappella.  WellŠ

The Russian instrument is the zither (gusli)

            Ukrainian- bandura, lira (hurdy-gurdy)

            South Slavic- gusli, but this time a bowed lute

                        Or it can be a dombra, a plucked lute

 

We will get to the location where epic is performed in a little while

Basically, some countries have it and some do not

            Even among the Slavs

            It was considered prestigious to have epic- consider high art and having epic proves that you are high and developed civilization, like classical Greece with Homer

 

Along the same lines, epic is a genre that seems to come and go

It dies out

Other genres do not- jokes, for example, are widely told here and now it all societies that we know of

All cultures have some sort of tale

            Be in fairy (magic) tale or the legend type

 

Epic- not so

Even in those cultures that have it, it seems to die out

 

It was first recorded by Kirsha Danilov, early in the 19th century, something like the early interest in tales

 

Big collecting push in the 1870's and basically up until Stalin

By then, epic exists only in the Russian North

            Onega, Pechora, Arkhangel'sk, Kareliia

 

By the time collecting comes back in the Brezhnev era, it is gone in the Russian North

Basically only place found is Siberia and, even then, tends to be far east and among Old Believers.  Why would this be so?

 

Why would epic tend to die out and disappear?

Their speculations now

 

Go back to examination of content

Talked about some songs from the so-called mythological group

Please note that not all scholars will agree on these divisions

 

Sviatogor and his wife

Sviatogor and the coffin

Volga i Mikula

 

Volkv Vseslavievich

 

These are etiological in a way

Talk about a change in eras- the era of Sviatogor is passed

A certain way of being and believing no longer exists

 

The Kievan group

            How Ilia becomes a bogatyr

            The various Ilia stories

                        Ilia Muromets and the Wandering Beggars

Ilia Muromets and Nightingale the Robber

Ilia Muromets and Idolishche

Ilia Muromets and Kalin Tsar

Ilia quarrels with Vladimir

            Dobrynia and the various Dobrynia stories

            Mykhailo Potyk

            And the various other heroes

 

The Novgorod group

            Sadko

            Vasilii Buslaevich

 

What are these poems about?

What is the tone?

What sorts of things strike you? 

            Ending

            Gender relations

            What makes a hero heroic

            Position of the ruler

 

What about the narrative style

            To what extent are various things described

            To what extent are various people described

            How is dialogue rendered

 

Are these stories of loss?

What is lost?  Is it a type of relationship between the sexes?

Which would mean a social restructuring and a loss of a type of society, a way of life

 

Issue of hubris

            To what extent are they saying that the Russians overestimated what they could do and thus got themselves into big trouble

Compare to Song of Roland

 

Relationship of these songs to reality 

To what extent do these songs reflect real historical figures and real battles or other events?

How consistent are they in terms of presenting what they claim to be fact,

            Such a family relations

            Events

 

Recall my telling them that epic was used not only as proof of having a high culture and being civilized, but also as a way of reconstructing a loss literature

And a lost history

            If there is no document of the Primary Chronicle type, then use epic

            With the caveat that the memory of the folk may be imperfect and some restoration would be needed

 

Playlist for the CD

Russian epic 1- Старинная песня про Данилушку, Н.К. Рожин, 1982

2- Калика читает Голубиную книгу, А.Н. Щелканова, 1985

3- Братья разбойинки и сестра, А.Л. Чечелова, 1983

4- Добрыня и Алеша, П.К. Соседов, 1984

5- Теща в плену у зятя, Ф.А. Санталова, 1982

6- Федор Колыческий и Мельфа-Софья Болховница, Е.С. Киселев, 1985

7- Отправление Скопина, А.И. Винокурова, 1982