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SLFK 211, Thursday, November 7, 2002

 

Zipes paints a very negative picture

Almost anything that an individual works with will bear the "taint" of that individual

Be it folklore

Or written stories that have become traditional

Or even tales that purport to be collected rather than written

 

The taint esp. noticeable in today's American culture with its commercial intent

The CULTURE INDUSTRY

 

His picture is perhaps over pessimistic

To an extent this testifies to the power of the unconscious

To an extent it testifies to the power of culture

 

When Zipes first became a critic, deconstructionism was in vogue

Finding hidden agendas or hidden motives in the works of various writers, scholars, film makers, etc.

Thus Zipes is actually fulfilling the cultural imperative of his time

 

Finding all sorts of hidden agendas works esp. well for folklore because folklore is multifunctional

Always has many agendas

Many of which are at least half beneath the surface &endash; on the verge of the conscious

 

This does not necessarily make them bad, evil, or seditious

We tend to think bad, evil, sedition when it comes to

Cultural industry with its commercial intent and profit motvie

We think bad, evil, seditious when it comes to something like the Soviet regime

Acculturation intent

Teaching people to be good Soviet citizens

But to what extent is there any intent there?

With commercial culture industry

There are all sorts of attempts at effectiveness

Like focus groups

Which at least imply intent

With Soviet Union &endash; there was a Ministry of Culture which tried to promote Soviet everything

Including things that are normally in the realm of culture, like ritual

Soviet ritual book

 

When a product of the American culture industry works well, we think that it is a work of art, even though it sells well

And sells spin-offs like DVD's, toys, books, garments

Issue of product placement

When it is less successful &endash; Oh, they were just trying to sell X

 

So, Zipes is upholding the cultural norm rather than going against it

 

Lets look at something that is truly spontaneous

Not part of the culture industry

A TRUE folklore form &endash; and that is legends, urban and other

 

These too, uphold the culture rather than subverting it

And, like all folklore

They point to the problem areas

And express them

Offer psychological help by providing the opportunity for expression

 

Legends

These are short adult narratives (and teenage too)

True versus make-believe stories

Make-believe is folktale - which has its own kind of truth

True &endash; myth: stories of origins

Legends &endash; historical

Contemporary

 

Myth &endash; beginning of time

Historical legend &endash; distant past

Sten'ka Razin as a historical legend

Contemporary legends &endash; happen in the same time frame as the one in which the teller lives

May have happened to a parent, but basically contemporaneous, not centuries old

Collection in the 19th century &endash; same time as Afanas'ev

Collection now

Different attitude on the part of collectors

Current scholars have hard time taking current legends seriously

 

 

Time

 

beginning of the universe

 

several centuries ago

 

 

now, or time of parents

 

Genre

 

myth

 

 

historical legend

 

 

contemporary legend

urban legend

Place of collection

 

everywhere

 

 

in villages

in cities

 

in villages

in cities

Time of collection

 

always

 

 

19th century on

 

 

19th century on

only from the 1970's

 

Different attitude toward stories collected in the 19th century (same time as Afanas'ev) and those collected now, unless they are collected in villages and have subject matter similar to old stories

 

The terms we are using are only one set of possible terms - others are used, but the terms above will do for our purposes

 

Jan Harold Brunvand: he was the first person to make a big public splash with urban legends &endash; others had worked on this material before, but Brunvand first to get lots of media attention

 

Term urban legend comes from him

Folklorist who are being purists would probably prefer another term, but be that as it may

 

One of his contributions: structural devices - FOF

Validation &endash; contrast to distancing opening &endash; 3X9 kingdoms away, once upon a time

Implied interdiction

Interdiction violated

Consequences &endash; rather than resolution

Implied resolution in the sense that existing mores confirmed, status quo upheld

Possible validation, authentication again - and you can see ... etc.

 

Function &endash; multifunctional, just like tales

Not one function, but many

Perennial issues &endash; like relationship with parents, spouse

Issues connected to a certain time and place

Cars, new (and seemingly mysterious) technologies, like microwave, Pop Rocks

New issues &endash; fast food, trafficking in women, imported goods

Each narrative reflects not just one issue, but several

Has not just one "reading," but many

 

Connection to reality &endash; MAY have happened

Whether or not they did, they should have

Perhaps not real event, but real issue

 

My brother and the poison ivy

Recent baby in the microwave in Richmond

Run-over cat in Richmond

Alligators in the sewers - woman claims she saw one

Goldfish and "whitefish" in the Charles River

 

Before we do more urban legends &endash; some background

 

Relationship of legend to tale

 

Tale:

Once upon a time, 3X9 kingdoms away &endash; it is fiction

Secular

Actors are human or non-human

Tends to be told at night, told in the home

Audience is unrestricted (child as well as adult)

Opposite extreme is myth

Believed to be true, in fact a greater truth, a sacred truth

Sacred rather than secular

Happened a LONG time ago, in the beginning of time

Often are cosmogonic &endash; tell how the world came to be

Actors are NOT human &endash; they are gods

Told under very special, ritual circumstances

Audience is restricted &endash; told at coming of age

 

American examples of myth might be religious materials

At UVA, material related to Jefferson

Russian &endash; religious

And there are also a set of folk creation stories

Earth Diver

How the Nechist' came into the world

Various stories about death: why people have to die

About knowing the hour of death

Why men should dominate over women in the household

The somewhat tangential one about devils and the all-seeing eye

 

Legends in between

Believed to be true &endash; and to a certain extent they tap on greater truths, or at least seek to uphold social norms

But &endash; they are secular, no sacred

Actors are human and non-human

Told virtually any time and any place

Day as well as night, no special setting

Audience is restricted, children are often excluded

 

Urban legend and historical legend contrast

Historical &endash; sacred figures or figures of almost mythological stature

Virgin Mary, St. Peter, George Washington, General Custer

 

Urban legends happen NOW, to a friend of a friend, in the dorm on the other side of campus, in the town down the road

 

In Richmond rather than Charlottesville

At Fashion Square Mall rather than U Va

 

The material done last time was all urban legend and all American

 

Today look at some historical legends, American and Russian

Then some urban legends, again American and Russian

 

Lots of American historical legends you know

Often you know these better than American history

George Washington and the cherry tree

GW throwing silver dollar across the Potomac

George Custer and the massacre at Little Big Horn

Either his body is left in tact while the bodies of his soldiers are scalped or otherwise violated

Or &endash; his body is horribly mutilated

Custer's hubris (he refuses to heed a warning, often one given by an old woman)

 

Old woman stories connected with Robin Hood, Koroglu, Volga, the Russian hero

Here the mythic basis is quite apparent

The old woman is likely based on a mythic portrayal of time and no hero, however strong, can overcome time and the ravages of age

Usually hubris of hero, his exceeding pride leads to his downfall

The old woman defeats the hero in a rather unpleasant and insulting manner &endash; she bleeds Robin Hood to death

Slow death is indicative of the ravages of time

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