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SLFK 211, Thursday, October 24, 2002

 

Bettelheim's "higher morality" point

He claims that what he is talking about is BEYOND cultural differences (higher than) implying that it has to do more with biology than culture

Remember all of the development stuff

Psychological development, if you will recall, is linked to physiological development

And, to a certain extent, physiologically determined in its own right, as in not just the relationship between the development of the body and how it shapes cognition, but the nature and growth of the human brain

 

This is true to a degree, but DOES NOT apply to all of the things that Bettelheim would have it apply to

When it comes to sexual maturation, not all cultures want female to be small

Not all cultures think that men are the ones with the stronger sexual desire and that women need to be taught that men are lovely and loveable rather than beastly

 

Showed this with the 2 Russian tales of Frog Princess (rather than Frog Prince)

Female is disgusting and bestial (except at night) rather than the male

And with Finist the Bright Falcon &endash; a pretty and not frightening animal groom

Male is attractive and not bestial and scary

Female seems to have great knowledge of sex and interest in same than the male

 

Gave cultural parallels

Then said even things that are VERY close to biology can be culturally influenced

As in birthing of the baby

 

Show video

 

The practices SEEM to be determined by biology

American &endash; need to start kid breathing, for example

 

But, can be shown to have cultural relevance

 

American:

Individuality

Child alone in his little plastic crib being viewed by daddy from behind picture window

Later, child sleeps in own room rather than with parents

You can argue that anesthesia of mom is mother/child separateness

Or &endash; needs of child DO NOT take precedence over those of parent

Child fed on schedule

Women schedule their delivery and have induced labor so that delivery baby does not interfere with work, other schedules

Kid toughs it out approach &endash; whether sleeping alone at night or food

Related to hitting child to start breathing

Activity and motion of the child encouraged

All of the crib toys that try to entertain baby all of the time, get to move

 

American batting the kid around versus Russian herb bath

On one level &endash; American is tough whereas Russian is comforting

But you could argue that Russian is enveloping and stifling, too

 

Russian:

Lack of individuality in that child in close quarters with adults

At one point slept with adults, or at least in same room

Lack of motion and at one point carried around all of the time

Much more indulgence to child &endash; feeding on demand

GROUP rearing of child &endash; before: older siblings, community

Now: granny care

People on the metro

Grannies tell you what you are doing wrong in the streets

 

This continues in the school system

Russian punishment by ostracizing kids &endash; vseobshchii boikot

Desks in Russian schools are 2-seaters; you share

American &endash; time out as punishment

Have own desk, own locker; or NO desk and no locker

 

Can be seen in all sorts of levels, including folkloric, like games and toys, even taunts and jeers

 

This is kid>kid material as opposed to adult>kid as in tales

Kids play more group games &endash; gusi, gusi, ga, ga, ga

Less whether is competition by a single player and where there is a clear winner or loser

 

Even body functions which are chosen for control can be different

Control equals maturity

 

American &endash; poop and sink

Americans are odor obsessed &endash; see the commercials on TV about deodorants

Assorted sprays, bathroom tissues

 

Kidlore:

Pink, pink

You stink

 

----- was a nut

S/he had a rubber butt

And every time s/he turned around

S/he went put, put

 

------ was a dope

S/he ate a bar of soap

Bubbles here, bubbles there

Bubbles in his/her underwear

 

Beans, beans, the musical fruit

 

Birthday party surprise

 

Phenomenal fart &endash; as in control of this function

Or farting songs, like My country 'tis of thee

 

Russian concern is more with snot

Snot insults

What they did to the baby's nose in the video

 

Don't know much American snot material among kids

Except the rhyme about dancing with my honey

 

Russian getting away with it games which require great awareness and control

Belogo i chernogo ne bukupat'

Da i net ne govorit'

Like Simon Says in a way, but note that Simon Says includes motion and this does not and also it is more complicated

You have to keep track of MORE things while someone (SELLER) tries to trick you &endash; seems so much like their view of the capitalist West.

Just the idea that you have to be more careful than in the West

 

American &endash; usually knowing dirty things and not saying them

Like Miss Suzie

The Pen 15 club

 

Russian version of One, Two, Three &endash; Red Light

Is Tishe edish', dalshe budesh'

Which beautifully reflects cultural perspective

 

American pain tolerance &endash; analogous to batting the baby at birth and having kid tough it out later

The nuggies and various write on hand "jokes"

The little shooting things &endash; hornets

 

Toys: used to be hand-made

Adult for kid or kid for self or younger sibling

Now hand-made stuff might be gum wrapper chain

Friendship bracelet

 

Most of stuff is adult, in fact commercially produced

Kids do have some choice as to what to buy (or ask parents for) and what to ignore

 

Cultural messages in toys

Barbie versus action figures

Various more realistic body female dolls seem to fail

How kids turn Barbie into a folk toy &endash; cut and shape to own interests

 

Go into Toys-R-Us and boy/girl differences

How can you tell which section for girls?

Supposedly gender-neutral toy like Lego

Girl's version is pink and you build things like kitchen

Paradise Island

 

Sex-role socialization: this is what girls do and this is what boys do

 

Continuing on Lego

Old Lego with freedom of design and prescriptive Lego

Parallels a great many of the teaching issues I see now

 

Russian Barbie version is Steffi, made in Germany for the Russian market and she is popular

Show pictures

 

Stories of the vampire doll (legends)

 

Could continue this way and I do want to teach a childlore course at some point

 

But let us sum up &endash; there is much that is the same across cultures and much that is culture-specific

The culture-specific can be shown to fit the cultural system

 

How to resolve the issue of what is culture-specific and what is universal?

Propp is one answer

 

That answer is that the structure is consistent (for whatever genre you are dealing with)

And the culture is the same from culture to culture

What is culturally relevant is the material inserted into the structure

 

Slot versus that which fills slot

Generic/nominal motifs

Emit/etic units

 

Example of Propp's work, since it is very famous

And very influential

And done using material from Russian tales

 

Vladimir Propp and the Morphology of the Folktale

The discovery of a narrative structure that is immensely powerful

This is a structure that people instinctively react to

If you take culturally relevant material, or material that is meaningful to the current situation

The things I noted last time: emphasis on technology

Acronyms

Alcohol

Ecology

And put it into this structure, you've got a hit.

 

 

Desired results: DESCRIPTION

What are the characteristics of the magic tale?

Setting BOUNDARIES: where does one type of tale end and the other begin?

 

Propp concludes that the basic unit of the tale is the FUNCTION

What matters is what a character does (and what action follows)

Not who a character is

 

So, it does not matter if you have a male or a female hero

And villain can be witch, or dragon, or Koshchei, or your sister

And you can vanquish the villain with a sword, or a hanky, or by finding his/her external soul

 

Thus, what matters is what the characters DO and what FOLLOWS

1) The functions of the characters serve as the stable, constant elements of the tale, no matter how or by whom they are filled

2) The number of functions is limited; it is 31

3) The sequence is identical

Not all 31 functions need be present in any one tale

In fact, any function can be omitted, except for the "lack"

But the ones that are there, will be in a certain sequence

4) All magic tales have the same functions, in the same sequence

Therefore, they are all of ONE TYPE as regards to structure

 

So, Propp thought he had succeeded in doing what he set out to do.

 

THE FUNCTIONS

 

a possible intro. sequence

1. family member absents self

2. interdiction

3. interdiction violated

4. villain &endash; reconnaissance

5. villain gets info.

6. villain attempts to deceive -- trickery

7. victim submits -- complicity

the body of the story

8. villain causes harm or injury -- villainy

carries off victim-hero

carries off desired object which must be retrieved

OR

8a. family member lacks something

or wants something LACK

9. lack made known

10. hero (seeker hero) agrees to counteraction

11. hero leaves home

donor group of functions - sphere of action

(willing, unwilling)

12. hero tested, questioned

13. hero reacts

14. hero receives agent, object

15. transfer to whereabouts of object of search/lack

16. combat with villain

17. hero branded

18. villain defeated

19. lack liquidated

can end here &endash; or &endash;

20. hero returns

21. hero pursued

22. rescue from pursuit

can end here &endash; or &endash; new villainy, as in 3 Brother tales

23. hero arrives home, not recognized

24. false hero presents claims

25. difficult task set

26. task resolved

27. hero recognized

28. false hero exposed

29. epiphany of true hero &endash; new appearance, transfiguration

30. villain punished

31. marriage and rule

 

Complete set of functions called a move

From lack to liquidation of lack or

Other resolution like marriage

 

Tale has at least one move, but can have more

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