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SLFK 211, Thursday, October 31, 2002

 

Happy Halloween!

 

To what extent is Halloween counter-cultural?

 

Folktales are one of the few genres that exist in all cultures that we know about

There is something to them

One thing is the pattern of action

This was isolated from Russian magic tales by Vladimir Propp in his Morphology of the Folktale.

 

Human narrative, at least in the areas that we know about, tends toward this pattern

Even personal narratives, as they are repeated and become "traditionalized" will tend toward this pattern

Even scientific narration, which tries to enlighten rather than entertain, will tend toward this over time

Not to mention presentation of historical material

 

In terms of popular culture and mass media, almost everything that is popular seems to follow this pattern

 

Which of the Star Wars movies is the best?

If you vote number 1, it is the one closest to the folktale patterning isolated by Propp

 

BattleStar Gallactica came out same time as Star Wars and it bombed

Why? No folktale patterning

 

Madhu and birth control education in India

Star Trek, Ninja Turtles and the like

 

The pattern is NOT an outline

Rather, works more like hypertext in that the connections are not flat

They are not on a single level or dimension

It is NOT a linear pattern

 

After talking about the actions, or as Propp calls them FUNCTIONS, I started on the actors, or as Propp calls them dramatis personae

 

These are peculiarly flat, as in they don't have the traits we normally associate with characters in literature

They do not grow and develop over the course of the narrative

The person who hears the narrative, the audience, grows as a result of hearing the story, but not the characters in the story

Characters don't have motivations

Villains are villainous just because; not because they have been wronged in the past and hold a grudge

Heroes are not terribly heroic and can lie, cheat and steal

As when a hero outwits what Propp would call an unwilling donor, say thieves arguing over the division of the spoils

Hero outwits them and gets the items over which they argue

Later uses them as magic agents

 

The actors have contradictory qualities

The witch is usually villainous, but can provide the hero or heroine with knowledge, with magic items like horses

Some of the sought-after characters don't seem terribly desirable

 

What someone like Jung proposes is that these are not separate characters at all, not individuals

Rather, they are PARTS of the self

This is not something Jung himself says, but one of his followers, Marie von Franz

Just as Freudian theory is applied to tales not by Freud himself, but by Bettelheim

 

That is why they do not develop

It is exactly the person outside the narrative who develops, the listener or audience, who, through the tale, gets to explore aspects of the self and thus grow as a person

 

These aspects of the self, according to Jung, are there when you are born

Jung says they are part of a collective memory, a memory of the human race or collective unconscious

 

These days people may not buy collective memory idea, but they do think that many mental faculties, including ideas and images are innate

Language, for example, is innate, at least the capacity for language

Hard-wired, in a way

 

So are the "archetypes"

"Hard-wired" but very amorphous and flexible, because they are in the unconscious and you are only partially aware of them

 

Thus villain, a Propp dramatis personae term, is like the archetype Jung calls the shadow

It is the negative aspects of the self

Destructive

Anti-social

Devouring and frightening

 

If the shadow is a part of the self, then you can understand why the villain can be helpful as well as harmful and why encounters with the villain yield wisdom

The way tale characters learn from Baba Iaga or Koshchei

 

Because shadow is negative aspects of the SELF, it is also very hard to deal with it and that is why there is reluctance to explore the negative

 

The shadow archetype in Star Wars is Darth Vader

And the encounter with the shadow is when Luke visits Yoda in the swamp to get an education and Yoda makes him confront the shadow

It is Darth Vader and, in the confrontation, Luke realizes that it is also Luke himself

 

The girl dramatis persona (which can also be a boy, depending on the gender of the main protagonist, essentially it is the opposite sex peer sought during the course of the narrative) is, in Jung terms, the archetype of the anima/animus

Anima for men and animus for women

It is the opposite sex aspect of the self, the feminine side of a man and the masculine side of the woman

 

The anima aspect of a man allows him to be sensitive and gentle

It also leads him to union with an a woman

 

The animus allows a woman to exhibit traits that are normally considered masculine

Which she might need at work, for example

And leads her to union with a real-life man

 

In Star Wars, since it is a film done from the male perspective by a male director, there is an anima and she is Leia

She seems to be a desired opposite sex partner

But she is also a sister and very much like Luke

She is gentle and sexy and feminine and vulnerable

And she is also a leader and a fighter and exhibits traditionally masculine traits

 

Helpers, as I noted, often are multiple and have complimentary traits

 

As for the helpers in Star Wars

Han Solo and Chewbaka are the animalistic aspects of the self

C3PO and R2D2 more cerebral with special mental abilities

C3PO and language

R2D2 and code

 

Just like in tales there are helpers who are animal &endash; the grey wolf in Firebird

And helpers with special knowledge or with the ability to understand the language of animals

 

In Jungian terms, what you do as you grow up is explore your unconscious in various ways

Become acquainted with your various archetypes

Each such foray into the unconscious is like a journey, an adventure into the other world

And, in that sense, it like a tale

Again, whether or not you accept Jung's idea of a collective unconscious and where it comes from, there are certain images that seem to be universal, or nearly so

Images that are akin to what Jung calls the archetypes

And we see in the dramatis personae found in tales

 

Uniting Jung and Propp

Jung's archetypes are like Propp's dramatis personae

And the journey of exploring the archetypes is like Propp's morphology of the tale

The set of functions that tell a story of exploration and discovery

 

It is not the characters in the story and explore and change and grow as the result of the tale

It is the listener who explores aspects of the self and grows and develops as a result

 

In short, you have enormously powerful material

Of the people who use this material to make successful popular culture

Some read Propp

Some read Jung

Some read both

Some read neither, but had extensive familiarity with tales

Gene Rodenberry of Star Trek fame does not admit to either, but uses tale patterning consistently

Same true of the creators of Ninja Turtles

 

This is unconscious material, in a sense

Some people can access without ever becoming conscious

Others cannot and need to have the material made conscious

If you need the material made conscious and if you want more see:

Vladimir Propp, Morphology of the Folktale

Carl Gustav Jung, Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious

Or Man and His Symbols

Or the books of Marie von Franz

 

This is material that helps children grow

This is material that adults often revert to in times of stress

Tales in prisons

German Never-Ending Story

The use of a tale fragment by the Washington area sniper

 

Use of tales and parables for people in therapy

 

Unconscious is often seen as threatening and scary, perhaps as a legacy of Freud

But not necessarily so &endash; can be comforting

Unconscious is the structuring and order faculty rather than the conscious

Patterns come from there

When there seems to be chaos and disorder

Resorting to this for comfort

 

In short, tales are really pretty basic stuff

In terms of the action: Propp's functions or Jung's journey of exploration of the unconscious, integration of the personality

In terms of actors: Propp's dramatis personal and Jung's archetypes of the collective unconscious

 

It is pretty powerful stuff which hits the audience below the belt, in a way

In terms of the idea that it goes for the unconscious

 

Zipes discusses how people have used this material

Sometimes unintentionally, but sometimes on purpose, for personal gain

Be it for something as simple and relatively innocent as personal expression

Or more crass like financial gain

 

Background:

In an oral situation, the five traits of folklore apply

You have a variant and it fits the story-telling situation

The way a person tells a story is very much tied to that person and the issues that are important to him or her

Have analyzed the narratives by people I know and about whose lives I know and can show the various issues in the stories that relate to their lives

Certain signatures of various tellers &endash; I can tell who the story is from, if it is a person who is a good narrator and someone I have worked with extensively

In an oral situation, however, it is not only the narrator who determines what happens

The audience also matters &endash; their feedback

Actually other stuff too &endash; time of narration, ambiance of the place, how comfortable it is

 

When you have someone WRITING a tale &endash; all that matters is your narrator

To a certain extent, the perceived audience, the people for whom he or she is writing

But they are distant, and part of the narrator's imagination, if you will

 

What happens then is that the personal issues of the narrator come more to the fore

He gives you examples of the various versions of Puss in Boots

 

Furthermore, because the stuff is in print, it affects many more people, gains a certain authority.

 

Oral situation &endash; a limited number of people present to hear a certain tale

With no record of the tale (it is not written down)

Nothing remains of the tale, except in the memories of the teller and the audience

 

You have something in print, it hangs around for a LONG time

Acquires authority

People take stuff that is in print more seriously

Legacy of connection to religion?

Privileging of reading as a skill, and writing also, over telling and listening?

More difficult skill to acquire

 

Disney sticks lots of his own personal issues into films

And, of course, there is commercial intent

The culture industry

 

What about Russian material?

Russian parallels are quite disturbing indeed

Russia has not worked out a commercial cultural industry, analogous to Disney

But DID have a very powerful and effective cultural industry in the Soviet era

 

Cartoons with Soviet themes &endash; seem so innocent

And based on folklore

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