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SLFK 211, Thursday, September 26, 2002

 

I could continue about various mythological issues in tales

Tales are part of a culture

Their history is one with the culture in which they exist

So they have elements of earlier belief of that culture

Especially those that are part of currently valid systems

 

Show contemporary "witches"

Not the Baba Iaga kind, but real people

Though a generic term for witch is baba

Show ritual towels for unquiet dead

 

So issues of death persist

And journeys to the other world

And ideas of where the body is located

 

Maybe the fact the journeys are so strongly associated with going to the land of the dead and spirits is why Russians are so border conscious

Recall the Iron Curtain

Female initiation goes to wedding whereas male reflected in stories

Perhaps because wedding, for the woman, has a journey element

Man stays put in own house and she moves into his

 

Wedding, for the woman, does become a lot like death

Laments

Clothing

Exit from house

 

The physical journey at a wedding seems to make her capable of spirit journeys

Women do the various ceremonies to cure

Usually women do rain charms

Women do fortune-telling

Women take care of the point where the soul leaves the body, like birth and death

Psalter and laments and guiding the soul of the deceased to the other world

Women can communicate with the dead and other spirits, such as the domovoi, whereas men cannot

 

The belief systems are so extensive and complex, that no one can know them all or present them all

And I certainly don't expect them to be able to

 

Aside from the impossibility of presenting a complete system of ancient belief

Think practically &endash; is it worth their knowing ancient Slavic belief?

Probably not, unless you are going to be a Slavic specialist

Is it worth seeing and experiencing another system of belief to stimulate the imagination?

Most definitely

Their ability to create, in whatever realm of endeavor will be greatly enriched thereby, and not just media and theater, but all realms of endeavor

 

Is it worth being aware that virtually everything has deep, deep roots in belief, probably ancient belief?

Most definitely

 

Halloween and Christmas

Halloween = Festival of death

Christmas = festival of triumph over cold, vegetation fertility

Even football has a ritual element

Halloween and Christmas are direct descendants of ancient rites

Football is new, but probably its ritual elements contribute to its success

Even though they did not enter the game intentionally

Success of Barbie related to its having elements of the votive female figurines of ancient times &endash; these are not just Slavic: found in parts of Europe, Middle East

Greg's spontaneous generation of Trypillian figures

 

Another way to look at it is that those things which seem to hark back to ancient images and/or concerns evoke a level of emotional reaction that is very effective

Powerful communicative tool

 

Learning this can get them the means of producing these intense responses, arousing deep emotions

Whether consciously, by knowing that the phenomenon exists and trying to replicate it

Or unconsciously, by becoming familiar with the material that has that effect in a different culture

 

Lets look at a very different sort of material &endash; the animal tales

Told story of the Fox and the Wolf

 

On one level, really gross and violent, yet they laughed

 

What sorts of stories are these and why are they told

 

Remind them of the type of material (and get extra data)

Story of the Peasant, the Bear and the Fox

What happens to the fox

Fox marries the cat

 

These are also called trickster tales

 

What is the nature of the tricks?

 

Fox tricks wolf into thinking that he can use tail as a fishing rod

Tricks peasant into thinking she is dead

Gets wolf to misunderstand body tolerance of cold

Gets wolf to think that you can use own body as food

 

These are the concerns of early childhood

What can you eat

To what extent can the body serve as food?

Ones own

Mom's

What can you do to the body in terms of heat, cutting, using as tool

 

When is something alive and when is it not and what does being alive mean

 

These are all VERY primitive distinctions that are important to a child

 

Distinctions in other stories

Bear and what can be done to body

Fox not realizing what is and what is not part of the body

More sophisticated &endash; language

In fox midwife &endash; same thing

Fox and wolf live together and fox eats honey while telling wolf she is delivering babies

Name of baby gives it away

 

Focus on distinction underscored

The song in fox and wolf fishing

 

It is the distinction that is the concern and the rest is obliterated

Child focuses on the distinction &endash; not the death of a character, or his or her pain

 

Winnebago Trickster stories &endash; Coyote

Gives his anus a task and punishes it when it fails

His hands fight

Takes his eyes out

Makes language mistakes &endash; children taken out to pee

Does various interesting things to his penis, like uses it as a tool, wraps around neck

Coyote straps on a vagina and becomes a female

 

Greg

Not much body/not body except perhaps: It's a moley??? Goes diggy, diggy???

But food, definitely

Thumbs and which one is edible, French fries in various forms

Lots of language &endash; round and round, nakey, nakey

Look, Mom, I'm a girl

Joey and Daddy, I'm not lying, I'm standing up

Fighting with words

 

The distinctions in other children, children in general

 

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