SUMMARY
OF FREN 332-4 STUDENTS COMMENTS RE DISCUSSION IN CLASS,
THURS, FEB 22, 1996, WITH MY RESPONSES.
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#19 (106 lines)
Date:
Sun, 25 Feb 1996 14:49:53 -0500
From:
mab7b@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
To:
fr332 - 4@virginia.edu
Subject:
Vos commentaires
Chers
amis,
Voici
un résumé de vos commentaires au sujet de la discussion
jeudi. Je les écris en anglais parce quils sont presque
tous en anglais:
COMMENT
EST ALLEE LA DISCUSSION? (HOW DID THE DISCUSSION GO?)
- "went
a little too fast & was fragmented."
- "good.
I understood things much better."
- Ditto
- "I
got lost a few times, but we reviewed a lot so it was easy to
stay w/ the class. I thought the class went smoothly."
- "Ca
maide à comprendre lhistoire mieux. It also
helped me to see which ideas would be easy to support in an essay."
- "better
than often. Sometimes I feel as if I get lost but today it was
more organized."
- "Un
peu confusant [confondante] à cause du texte peut-être.
I feel overwhelmed by "Un Coeur simple", and the discussion
made me realize that to analyze a story written in French is harder
than any English class I have ever taken."
- ".
. . rather well today, although sometimes I feel overwhelmed by
the pace and depth of the discussion. Often I feel that we try
to cover too much material/reading in one class."
- ".
. OK, but it seemed a little slow. I think that Flaubert has made
the discussions slow down a little."
- "
. . .well, but I feel like I am "out of the loop." I
have things I know about the story and want to say but cant
express them well in class."
NOTES
FROM MAB: (1) If you have an interesting idea, but cant come
up with the French, try it in Englishwell get a translation
from someone else. Next time, maybe it will come in French.
Note
that some find the discussion too fast and some too slow. I think
that means were doing the best we can to hit the middle. Dont
be afraid to ask anyone for clarification.
We are covering a lot more reading and ideas than you did in 331(if
you took it). I just had lunch with two former 332 students now
in a literature survey classtheyre covering a NOVEL
in two weeks. "Un Coeur simple" is a novella. Youre
moving into the big time!
QUEST-CE
QUE LE PROF POURRAIT FAIRE? (WHAT COULD THE TEACHER DO TO IMPROVE
CLASS DISCUSSIONS?)
- "Class
time is limited, but thats not the fault of the prof."
- "I
liked when we talked in groups and then had class disc. b/c the
simple Qs get answered."
- "nothing."
- "I
liked the part when we wrote down our questions and discussed
them. I think we should continue with that and make sure that
everyone is understanding."
- "It
helps a lot that you encourage us to develop and support ideas
and work them out, while interjecting when things get too off
track."
- "More
time discussing the events in the story."
- "Maybe
focus on one theme rather than jump around b/c that can become
confusing."
- "having
to find the figures de style makes us think about
the text on our own, so that we are more prepared for class."
- "Make
sure all are participating in discussion. Also make sure there
are no content questions / misunderstandings."
- "Try
to repeat large / important concepts / interpretations. The Qs
danalyse et de comprehension help. Also discuss important
events and distinguish between those and unimportant events in
the stories."
NOTES
FROM MAB:
Your
comments confirm my belief that MOST of you understand MOST of what
is happening in the story. If you have comprehension Qs, ask me
before class or--even better--ahead of time via e-mail. Or ask the
class as a whole. Well keep using the groups to answer some
of these, whenever we have time.
I agree
that sometimes the discussion goes in too many directions (I thought
Thursdays did that less.) Thats been in part because
I dont like to squash ideas. Ill try to do a better
job of keeping the focus on the big issues, so dont be offended
if your details disappear.
QUEST-CE
QUE LES AUTRES POURRAIENT FAIRE? (WHAT COULD THE OTHER STUDENTS
DO TO IMPROVE DISCUSSIONS?)
- "look
for a trend & try to interject ideas while staying to a common
theme."
- "more
participation from everyone"
- "Everyone
should read the story."
- "Not
be afraid to say that theyre thinking."
- "Everyone
contributes well; the disc. flows nicely."
- "Come
to class prepared."
- "Talk
louder and slower! Repeat themselves, too."
- "Talk
in less abstract terms--I think thats what is confusing."
- "Others
opinions make me realize MANY different possible interpretations."
- "Participate
more."
QUEST-CE
QUE VOUS POURRIEZ FAIRE? (WHAT COULD YOU DO TO IMPROVE DISCUSSIONS?)
- "Think
about analytical questions before coming to class so I dont
feel like Im "on the spot" & pressured to
think on my feetthat way I cram up & cant think."
- "Maybe
read the story twice and try to analyze it before class."
- "Have
a short summary of the events that happened in the section we
just read." (to check comprehension)
- "Try
to add more to the discussions."
- "Maybe
think of questions in advance (before class) which would stimulate
discussion."
- "Its
necessary to really think about the readings before class."
- "I
always try to contribute, but often I lose track of what is being
discussed. Ill continue trying to follow as best I can."
- "Be
more involved in class discussions!!"
- "I
could read more closely with a dictionary. I should participate
more but I do not feel very comfortable with my French & I
dont feel as if I express my ideas clearly."
NOTES
FROM MAB:
These
are obviously brilliant ideas, and I AM COUNTING ON YOU FOR TUESDAY.
MERCI BEAUCOUP DE TOUS VOS COMMENTAIRES. JE CROIS QUE LES DISCUSSIONS
VONT TRES, TRES BIEN LORSQUE VOUS AVEZ BIEN PREPARE LES TEXTES ET
NE SONT PAS TROP MALADES. A mardi! Marva Barnett
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